Armed with ‘virtue’ only and providing no scholarly or academic sources to justify his argument, it seems Dr. Michael Brown came into the American Gospel Roundtable discussion to impugn both the integrity and reputations of Prof. Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec.
Holly Pivec and Prof. Doug Geivett on the other hand, came into the discussion armed with documented evidence, sourced material and coherent arguments to explain to Dr Brown the problems of a very real and damaging movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).
Watch the full video below:
Is the New Apostolic Reformation a real movement that promotes dangerous false teachings that have subjected countless people to spiritual abuse and manipulation? Or is the label “NAR” being used by critics to misrepresent the beliefs of faithful leaders? Michael Brown, Holly Pivec, and Doug Geivett met in person on August 13, 2022, to discuss these important issues. Prior to this roundtable, they discussed these issues in 2020 on Alisa Childers’ podcast:
Link:
• NAR: Movement or Myth?with Holly Pive…
Note: This discussion was originally intended to be part of the “American Gospel: Spirit & Fire” (AG3) docuseries. Dr. Michael Brown withdrew from that project in the fall of 2023 but gave permission to publish this roundtable in an “uncut” format, separate from AG3.
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“How to Have a Constructive Conversation about ‘NAR’ (the New Apostolic Reformation)” – By Dr. Michael Brown:
https://thelineoffire.org/article/how-to-have-a-constructive-conversation-about-nar
“Response to Joseph Mattera and Michael Brown, Statement on “NAR and Christian Nationalism” – By Doug Geivett & Holly Pivec
https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/narandchristiannationalism
“As People Flee NAR, Michael Brown Defends NAR Leaders and Compromises His Status as Spokesman for Charismatics and Pentecostals” – By Doug Geivett & Holly Pivec
https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/michaelbrowndefendsnarleaders
Michael L. Brown, Ché Ahn, and the Brownsville Revival – By Doug Geivett (7/16/24):
https://douggeivett.wordpress.com/2024/07/16/michael-l-brown-che-ahn-and-the-brownsville-revival/
Source: American Gospel (@AmericanGospel), NAR: Myth or Movement? – AG Roundtable, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrPARqidAM, Premiered August 01, 2024. (Accessed August 01, 2024.)
ARCHIVED SOURCE MATERIAL
In case articles are pulled, here the archived sources.
Source 1: How to Have a Constructive Conversation about ‘NAR’ (the New Apostolic Reformation), The Line of Fire, https://web.archive.org/web/20240708195505/https://thelineoffire.org/article/how-to-have-a-constructive-conversation-about-nar
Source 2: [Click to download PDF Document], Response to “NAR and Christian Nationalism” Statement, Holly Pivec, https://web.archive.org/web/20230101130856/https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/narandchristiannationalism
Source 3: As People Flee NAR, Michael Brown Defends NAR Leaders and Compromises His Status as Spokesman for Charismatics and Pentecostals — Holly Pivec, https://web.archive.org/web/20231225040445/https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/michaelbrowndefendsnarleaders
Source 4: Michael L. Brown, Ché Ahn, and the Brownsville Revival, Doug Geivett, https://web.archive.org/web/20240808112954/https://douggeivett.wordpress.com/2024/07/16/michael-l-brown-che-ahn-and-the-brownsville-revival/
TRANSCRIPT
(Transcript to be uploaded later.)
“Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?” Galatians 4:16
Categories: Line of Fire, New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)