Mike Winger has recently called out the wicked and apostate fraud “Apostle” Ché Ahn, a notorious “mega apostle” of the New Apostolic Reformation. Through his influence, Ahn has helped produce not only false believers but also false apostles such as Lou Engle, Patricia King, Amanda Wells and Katherine Ruonala, whose ministries have caused significant harm within Christianity.
In a recent Winger video addressing what he described as the “lies” of Ché Ahn, it became apparent that Ahn has begun moving into damage-control mode, quietly removing videos that Mike Winger had referenced in his program. Fortunately, we were able to source the original footage before Ché Ahn pulled it. However, we did not get the opportunity to download the video itself:
Source: Harvest Rock Church (@HarvestRockChurch), Pastor Che Ahn Speaks on Accountability Within the Church, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oQq1Qqk9aE, uploaded February 1, 2024. (Accessed March 04, 2026.)
A victim reached out to Mike Winger on February 02 (we assume 2026) to reveal the lies of Che Ahn in his message of accountability:
It appears that the following letter in January from Che Ahn is now also pulled:
Here is the text form of that letter,
Letter From Dr. Ché Ahn
RE: Shawn Bolz
Dear Friends and Family of Harvest International Ministry, Wagner University and Harvest Rock Church:
As you may be aware, a former member of Harvest International Ministry (“HIM”), Shawn Bolz, has been the subject of much controversy.
When I first met Shawn, he was a speaker at various events in which I was also invited to speak. I loved everything about him. He was part of my son’s generation, the next generation that will take the lead in the Body of Christ. He seemed to be a very sincere believer. I had no reason to doubt his integrity. In 2013, Shawn asked to join the HIM network, and after a review of his application along with his references, he was approved to become a member of HIM.
Around 2020, I was made aware of serious allegations of sexual misconduct against Shawn Bolz. I confronted Shawn, and he denied all of the allegations. I sought the Lord, and I believed him to be a brother in Christ needing some serious help. I asked Shawn to submit to his pastor at the time, which was Bill Johnson, and asked him to resign as a member of HIM. He agreed to both.
After that conversation, HIM immediately removed Shawn as a member of HIM and removed him as a speaker for any and all future events. Shawn has never been involved in any events that HIM and Harvest Rock Church have hosted since.
I was deeply saddened to learn that despite Shawn calling Bill Johnson his pastor, it appeared he did not want to submit to any of the discipline that Bill required. Ultimately, Shawn was removed from the Bethel network.
As the senior leader of HIM and Harvest Rock Church, I sincerely apologize for the pain that sin has brought. As a servant of the Lord, I am submitted to His Lordship over my life. I fear the Lord, and I never once thought to cover up another man’s sin. I dealt with the matter related to Shawn Bolz in accordance with what I believed a biblical, kingdom response would require. The Bible says, “He who walks in integrity walks securely” (Proverbs 10:9). I believe, by God’s grace, that I have walked in integrity regarding this situation.
Sincerely and with much love,
Papa Ché
HARVEST INTERNATIONAL MINISTRIES
2555 E. COLORADO BLVD 4TH FLOOR PASADENA CA 91107
Source: Ché Ahn, Letter From Dr. Ché Ahn RE: Shawn Bolz, Harvest International Ministry, https://himglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Letter-from-Dr-Che-Ahn-RE-Shawn-Bolz.pdf, January 2024. (Accessed March 5, 2026.)
Because Che Ahn has had this letter pulled, we have uploaded the letter and transcribed it.
This is a snippet of the message that Che Ahn forgot to pull (we’ve downloaded this one):
“”Judgment begins in the house of the Lord.” Pastor Che Ahn delivers a sobering message about how the church must handle sexual misconduct — starting with honesty and transparency. He acknowledges what more could have been done regarding Shawn Bolz, and repents of where he fell short.
We grieve with those who were hurt, and we reaffirm our commitment to walk in the light, no matter the cost.”
Source: Harvest Rock Church (@HarvestRockChurch), Pastor Che Ahn Speaks on Accountability Within the Church, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlrYnfSlOmk, uploaded February 1, 2024. (Accessed March 05, 2026.)
TRANSCRIPT
So on April the 8th when I get a call
from Patricia King in 2020,
she called about one of our HI members,
Sean Boltz. He joined us in 2013. I have
the application.
Now when you apply to be a member, we
ask you if is your primary alignment or
secondary. And it’s in the application.
[snorts] He put down HM is my secondary.
My primary is Bethl and Global Legacy.
And so I told Patricia,
what you’re telling me, we need to tell
Bill, we need to tell Chris because
they’re the the reason why we have
primary secondary because we have
anticipated there’ll be pastors who will
fall. But the question then is who will
be responsible for bringing discipline
and restoration.
We expect the primary ones to do so. All
right. but he was a member of him.
And so she said, “I’m going to send both
you and Chris this confession tape of
this young man
that was sexually harassed
in a very perverted way.”
And I’m listening to this message and
I’m absolutely devastated by it, shocked
because I’ve known Sean since
now looking back around 20 years, but
back then uh he joined Hime 2013. So
this is seven years later.
I called this young man up just to talk
to him personally
and it was very very credible. was a
Bethl student, three-year student, loves
loves Jesus,
and he was just absolutely
traumatized by what he encountered was
Sean Bolts.
I met with Shawn right here in this
auditorium in the lower floor. I
immediately called him because he was
pastor right here in LA, expression 58
at that time.
And when I met him, he denied
everything.
But
now keep in mind the Bible says on you
don’t bring an accusation against an
elder unless there’s two or more.
But it was so devastating and the the
confession was so credible when I
interviewed this young man that I
immediately asked him to step down from
HIM
and I canceled him speaking at our
conference that year. I said, “You’re
not going to be speaking at and not only
that, I’m going to not allow you to
speak at any of our churches.” That was
my word to him.
In many ways, I felt even kind of
did I go too too harsh? Was I going too
far with them? Maybe I should have just
wait for another person to come forth
before I gave them this mandate. But I
just felt in my heart that I needed to
do that. And then I called Chris and
said, “Chris, Sean says you’re his
primary alignment.” And so Chris came
down and flew down to LA to meet with
him. The reason why I’m saying this
is that the
cast on me that I was covering up for
Sean is absolutely a lie from the pit of
hell. There was no cover up.
There’s no cover up. If anything, I
aired on the side of being harsh.
I’ve never covered up for anyone’s sins.
By the way, you know that I could give
you a scripture verse for that. That’s
an abomination before the Lord if you
cover up someone’s sins.
I did what I thought was the best thing
to do.
And so
Chris and Danny Silk took
responsibility.
Now I think I realized that this is in
the midst of co this 2020 April 2020
and um we were in a lawsuit.
We sued uh Governor Newsome July 2nd and
in the fall it was just everything was
upheaval
and then we hit 2021. We started to open
up. We started plant campuses. We’re
really really busy. So, I didn’t follow
up on Chris until like a year and a half
later.
This just was out of mind, out of sight,
out of mind. It’s not just on my I
succumb to him over. He’s now in their
hands. And of course, I love Beth
though. I love Bill’s one of my best
friends.
By the way, Bill was not involved.
You know, it’s like Chris and Danny took
responsib. So, I talked to Chris around
a year and a half later and I said,
“How’s Shawn doing? How did it go? How’s
the counseling?” By the way, I also
offer counseling here. I said, “We have
a hope center if you want Sean if you
want counseling.” He said, “No, u” he
said, “Bill’s my pastor and um and I’ll
I’ll go up there.”
So,
I asked Chris, “How’s he doing?
and he said it’s a mess. He’s not
repentant.
He won’t receive anything what you asked
him to do and he’s just taken off.
Now, this is where
when I got all the flak for covering up.
I said, I didn’t cover up, but I said,
Lord, I and I think we have to all be
teachable because, you know, God’s using
all this to prune us, to discipline us,
and he’s disciplining the church.
And my one of my main prayers is some
where it says search me oh God know my
heart try me know my anxious laws see if
there any evil way within me
and then the Lord did correct me and
convicted me
because as soon as I heard that he
didn’t receive
correction from Chris and Danny
I should have come back to this house
and made that announcement that we’re
marking him publicly.
I did it with our leaders in Hime, but I
didn’t tell you. And the reason why I
should have told you is twofold. Number
one,
number one is because he preached from
this pulpit to you.
But number two,
I didn’t know there were other victims
until all this hit the fan
the last two weeks.
And it could have prevented and I’m
thinking along those terms of if I had
made the announcement you know what we
disciplined Shawn he didn’t receive from
us the two of us went I went to in
private
Chris went to him with the same
allegation same tape the same testimony
he didn’t receive from Chris and now we
have to tell to the church and I didn’t
do that and I take full responsibility
and I ask you And I ask the victims who
fell under his his prey uh for
forgiveness. So will you forgive me for
that?
[applause]
Because we do not have the original sermon, we thought it would be a good idea to publish the comment section which is revealing enough. Christians are finally courageous enough to call out the sins and cover-ups of Che Ahn
@andrewmanusama6049
1 month ago
WHY didn’t you tell your church about Bolz?
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@john4226
1 month ago
It’s too bad that you expect primary leadership to deal with these very evil behaviors, and when they don’t, you also don’t. You are culpable to the other degree.
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@patriciabenavente8147
1 month ago (edited)
The fact that Bill didn’t speak to him does not mean he wasn’t involved. He sent Kris and Danny, he was the one in charge.
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@arthurbundy9283
1 month ago (edited)
It’s sad to think that anyone from the NAR would have apologized UNLESS Mike Winger first posted the truth. For way too many years, frauds like Shawn Bolz, Todd White, Todd Bentley where platformed and endorsed by NAR fake apostles even after they where exposed. It’s not a bad first step but it’s hard to believe its a genuine apology. Credibility is hard to earn and even harder to get back.
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@jilliandavidson2838
1 month ago
Che, at the point you asked Shawn to step down after talking to that young man, you should have made it known to all of us. I am one who was affected
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@andrewmanusama6049
1 month ago
WHY didn’t you tell your church about Bolz?
@john4226
1 month ago
It’s too bad that you expect primary leadership to deal with these very evil behaviors, and when they don’t, you also don’t. You are culpable to the other degree.
@patriciabenavente8147
1 month ago (edited)
The fact that Bill didn’t speak to him does not mean he wasn’t involved. He sent Kris and Danny, he was the one in charge.
@arthurbundy9283
1 month ago (edited)
It’s sad to think that anyone from the NAR would have apologized UNLESS Mike Winger first posted the truth. For way too many years, frauds like Shawn Bolz, Todd White, Todd Bentley where platformed and endorsed by NAR fake apostles even after they where exposed. It’s not a bad first step but it’s hard to believe its a genuine apology. Credibility is hard to earn and even harder to get back.
@jilliandavidson2838
1 month ago
Che, at the point you asked Shawn to step down after talking to that young man, you should have made it known to all of us. I am one who was affected and I could have made adjustments in 2020 that would have prevented what happened over the next 6 years. All of you had a responsibility. To say “out of sight, out of mind” is a copout. It is obvious if you are not hearing anything obviously he hasn’t done anythjng about it. But what hurts the worst is that you have thrown Bill, Kris and Danny under the bus. What a good “friend”..
@gabbyheusser6503
1 month ago
Bethel has not handled this biblically. We all need to be very careful who we are connected with.
@rickorider
1 month ago
Its very odd that these so called apostals missed what was going on with SB.
Peter knew exactly what was going on with Annanias and Sapharia. He even knew how much they sold their property for.
The prophetic movement totally missed it?
So how can we trust anything they say now.
They all got caught.
Exaclty the same with Todd Bentley when they “commissioned him”
They missed it totally.😮
@gregoryrelationshipcoach9229
1 month ago (edited)
Did you tell the local church about him if he was ministering to the church? If not, then that is COVERUP. You did not follow the teaching in 1 Tim 5.
@wendyxu5527
1 month ago
The top leadership/platform speakers only appear to know one another superficially
@gabbyheusser6503
1 month ago
How do you explain Todd Bentley?
@mturner2572
1 month ago (edited)
If you are also an Apostle in association of these apostolic leaders why did you not ask them to expose this so no others were hurt?
Did you miss the teachings in the Word or a word?
Apparently you should not have believed Shawn and Danny and Kris.
Are you willing to participate in restoration of loss to the victims?
@elizevanniekerk1150
1 month ago
No, you just passed the responsibility to someone else! And that IS cover up.
@timkimmich6689
1 month ago
Che, what ist your involvement with January 6 (you know, the one 6 years ago)?
@jamesisaacs8616
1 month ago
Blame shifting, gaslighting, self-pity, self-justifying. Everything besides repentance and leadership, and everything besides caring for the victims. The “lie from the pit of hell” is the entire NAR and Prophetic movement. Disgusting.
@optaylor
1 month ago (edited)
I cant help but wonder why Che & all other local church leader dont refer to and ADHERE to the clear scriptural admonitons in I Tim 5:18-22 for leaders & elders. Praise God for the clarity of His Word which is as practical today in 2026 as it was when it was written. ( all scripture is profitable not just for theoreiticians but for practiitioners !)….. can we get back to that ?? If we were to do so I believe it would be entirely cathartic for Charismatic churches as a whole.
@austinnunns9826
3 weeks ago (edited)
Definition of cover-up from Merriam Webster: “a usually concerted effort to keep an illegal or unethical act or situation from being made public”
You disregarded 1 Timothy 5:20 and purposefully doing things behind the scenes to keep it from being made public fits the definition of a cover up.
My wife and the rest of her family have relied on you for years, calling you “Papa Che”. They went to the prophecy conferences you hosted that hosted Shawn Bolz. Based off of your word, they held his words to mean something. The LEAST you could’ve done was say that his words weren’t really from the Lord, not to listen to his advice, and to STAY AWAY!
You can splice and redefine however you want, but you did participate in cover up.
Praying for true repentance without redefining to save face.
@patriciabenavente8147
1 month ago
Of course he didn’t want counseling. Everybody is big on him apologizing. I don’t think people have to convince him he needs to apologize first to God and then to the victims. If people have to beg you to apologize that shows the state of your heart; it’s been hardened. Apologizing has to come from the heart of the offender not from the outside, for it to be real.
Narcissists despise people who bid them to humble themselves because that’s not at all what they want to do. They want to continue to be unchecked so they can do as they please. It’s as simple as that.
@ingridskalin1923
1 month ago
Thank you for speaking out snd creating this video.
@NNCCCC63
1 month ago
please have a glass of water
@PretzelBubba
1 month ago (edited)
4:50 “Bill’s one of my best friends.”
Truth: You call him “my apostle.” That is more than being a friend.
Even the way you said, “By the way, Bill was not involved. Kris and Danny took respons -” and you stopped – because you knew, better not say another word.
Che, it seems clear that you are running cover (up) for the man you call your apostle. Not good. We must never honor man more than God.
BTW, one of your pastors, Jay Koopman, ministered closely for FOUR years with Sean Feucht (Shawn Bolz’ best bud😳) during his Let Us Worship tour. Have you ever warned your sheep about Sean Feucht? What’s up with Jay’s enmeshment with him?
@jamesisaacs8616
1 month ago
Awfully defensive – not a good look
@gabbyheusser6503
1 month ago
If there was no cover up then why did you not tell all of us and your church who he was ministering to and had ministered to?
@heidialaniz
2 weeks ago
You told your sister-in-law, as she was being violently abused by her husband, to stay in the marriage because maybe God called her to be a martyr. Instead of helping her out of a very dangerous situation, you told her to stay and die.
YOU ARE DISQUALIFIED FROM MINISTRY!!!
That is one of the most atrocious things I’ve ever heard in my entire life. And I’ve heard a lot of atrocious things. RESIGN AND REPENT!!!
@akeraiotita6906
2 weeks ago
Good grief….
@jamesisaacs8616
1 month ago
And you want to be the Governor?
@sjfreedom3
1 month ago (edited)
4:35 “We didn’t check with Chris until a year … year and a half later; Out of sight out of mind”? How is that not a coverup? Kind of a, “look the other way” hope it blows over?” Then at 6:10 another admission of coverup about what he should have done … he should have brought it before the body/congregation, but didn’t because … COVERUP.
@tbjoshua11
2 weeks ago (edited)
I think it was right to stop him from speaking at your churches but yes the argument stands why was it kept a secret, so in a sense, he was allowed to go on and preach else where and it wasn’t stopped. you might say i don’t have authority everywhere but just at my organization but still it could have been made public. it says a lot or implies a lot if its kept secret. Eventually its going to come out right, so you cant keep things like this a secret. Later when it does come out then they will point the finger and say your complicit.
@creativesarise
3 weeks ago
Your are no Apostle
@eehh5526
11 days ago
Repentance? What is repentance? Repentance from what? Repentance from sin? What is sin?
1 John 3:4 KJV
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
@FJ-rh6io
1 month ago
I hope you repent and forgiveness is always available to you, but people like you are the reason charismatics like me can’t find a church for the life of them. Down to the smallest local bodies, people try so hard to be like you guys. I don’t know what I’m supposed to do at a church that calls the gifts demonic or straight up doesn’t believe they’re still operating when I know they are. But there’s also no way I’m raising my kids in whatever this is. You’re forcing biblically literate continuationists into homelessness and nomadic migration as far as church is concerned. You can’t take on the role of international minister and thought leader and then not take responsibility for the culture you create. If you love the Lord at all, you will feed His sheep, and when His sheep are bleating for hunger and sorrow, you don’t ignore it, you don’t brush it off. For all that is holy, turn from these ways!
@bethanymathie4912
2 weeks ago
Che Ahn needs to explain telling his former sisterinlaw that God was calling her to be a martyr in an abusive marriage.
Mark and avoid this man. He is a wolf. He only protects his own.
@BuckinMich63
1 month ago
You are disqualified. You have zero discernment and zero credibility! Please step down.
@mattboyles3590
2 weeks ago
Hey Che Ahn & Sue.
What about this girl. You were her former brother in law.
We need a respond from you
@EFleming-g8g
2 hours ago
NAR fools https://youtu.be/51xmYrMq8Kk?si=xx_HzrB1NVK7vHHB
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