Mike Winger has done it again, calling out cover-up culture and abuse in the church. This time he has called out Gary Morgan of the Australian Prophetic Council (APC), Morgan being notorious grifting prophet around the Australian landscape. He s oftern associated with Apostle Katherine Ruonala of the Glory City cult in Queensland and her APC. However, more recently he has been embroiled in prophetically abusing Casey City Church members, the cult of Larry Sebastian.
Timeline and resources on Larry Sebastian of Casey City Church.
Gary Morgan was also exposed as a prophetic scam in the infamous ‘Culprit in the Pulpit’ scandal that many of us released on the online Christian community, where he too failed to prophetically sense the conniving and plagiarising prophet, Amanda Wells:
Elijah List Challenge ‘Culprit in the Pulpit’ REVEALED!
Mike Winger posted across his social media channels the following,
Source: Mike Winger, Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/MikeWingerBibleThinker/posts/pfbid02vMsoGZqZcChLvjtxmesGU4vXymRTDzqimAciTqsZtEJudk1EW6kVLVPiwZMEFUrLl, March 12, 2026. (Accessed March 8, 2026.)
Not longer after Mike Winger called him out, the statements started rolling out. Below, you can access them and read them in case they are ever pulled.
Statement Regarding Recent Claims About Gary Morgan
Recently, concerns about Gary Morgan and his ministry have been shared publicly online. We recognise that for many, this conversation has been unsettling and has stirred up real pain. Because those statements are now part of the public conversation, we want to respond to ensure that those who are trying to make sense of what they’ve heard have a fuller picture.
Before anything else, we want to speak directly to people who may be sitting with pain, confusion, or disorientation right now. If you have followed Gary’s ministry and are uncertain what to make of these claims, we understand. If you received a word from Gary and are now questioning what that meant or whether it was real, your uncertainty is legitimate and deserves to be taken seriously. These are not
small questions. They touch people’s faith, their experiences of God, and their sense of safety in
Christian community.
We also want to acknowledge those who have brought concerns forward. Coming forward is costly. It requires courage. Whatever questions remain about the process or its outcome, we honour that courage, and we do not take it lightly.
Our hope in everything that follows is to add clarity in the midst of uncertainty, not to shut down legitimate questions.
We want to say clearly: the fraudulent use of social media to manufacture prophetic words is a genuine and serious problem in parts of the charismatic church. We do not condone it. We would not defend it. The integrity of prophetic ministry matters deeply to us, and that conviction shapes everything that follows.
It is precisely because this issue is serious that the process for examining accusations must also be serious; careful, fair, and resistant to the pressure of public momentum. What we offer below is not a defence of prophetic ministry in general, or of Gary’s innocence as a settled matter. It is a commitment to ensuring the record is accurate and the process is fair.
In light of the questions that have arisen following these posts, we want to address two issues:
The accusation that Gary used social media to data mine personal information and present it as revelation from God.
Past boundary violations in Gary’s life.
A claim circulating online suggests that Gary used social media to gather personal information about individuals and then presented that information as prophetic revelation.
The situation referenced occurred in 2016, while Gary was ministering at a church service. During a time of ministry, he shared several words of knowledge, including calling out a name and date that no one in the room responded to. He continued by sharing what he believed was a prophetic word, in case the individual was watching the event online.
After this session, the pastor told Gary that a member of staff had brought an accusation against him. This staff member had created a fake Facebook profile with the same name and date that Gary called out, believing this was evidence that Gary had used social media to identify them in advance. Gary denied that accusation.
Despite his denial, the accusations escalated, and others were brought in to investigate. The investigation concluded without finding evidence to support the accusations. Gary’s accusers chose not to proceed to the examination of his electronic devices (an examination Gary actively invited), and the process ended there. We are left with an unresolved accusation and Gary’s consistent denial. We recognise that for some, this will not be satisfying. We share that same desire for greater clarity, and we remain open to any process that could provide it.
In the ten years since this accusation, we have not received additional concerns about the integrity of Gary’s ministry. Even so, allegations involving ministry leaders should be examined carefully. If anyone has information that should be reviewed, we invite them to come forward. We would welcome the involvement of independent leaders along with the board so that any review is conducted transparently and with appropriate accountability. Our commitment as a board is to pursue truth, to honour the name of Christ, and to uphold integrity in ministry.
We recognise that when discussing any moral failure publicly, several complexities require careful consideration. Our first concern in situations like this is the dignity, well-being, and privacy of third parties affected. This limits the facts that can be shared, which we acknowledge can look like an attempt to cover up, minimise, or otherwise obscure what actually happened. Further, when context (or detail) is shared, it can also sound like an appeal to excuse intent or minimise sin.
With these complexities acknowledged, we share this in a wholehearted effort to be transparent about what took place, not to excuse what happened. We want to be clear that Gary held no leadership role in this woman’s life. We name this not to minimise his sin, but to ensure the facts are stated plainly so nothing is hidden through imprecise language. Gary and his wife, Sarah, have shared information about this situation publicly several times and have requested that it be shared now, but we recognise this may be new information for many.
In 2008, Gary acted inappropriately with a married woman. Their interactions crossed physical and emotional boundaries. While no sexual intercourse or oral sex took place, the nature of those interactions constituted sexual sin and moral failure. Gary confessed what had happened to his wife, Sarah and to the leaders in their lives at that time. While Gary and Sarah followed the advice given by their leaders, unfortunately, it was unhelpful. They were effectively told not to speak about this anymore and to forgive, forget, and simply move on with their lives.
Ten years later, in 2018, Gary and the same woman began messaging each other on social media and in private. While there was no physical contact between the two, they did exchange flirtatious and inappropriate messages. After three weeks of messaging, Gary confessed to Sarah again, and then brought the matter to Peter McHugh, Gary and Sarah’s pastor. Through his conversations with Peter, Gary came to understand that the messaging was rooted in the events from a decade earlier.
Gary began weekly counselling with a licensed psychologist and remained in therapy for more than two years. Peter met with Gary and Sarah consistently for one year in a pastoral context. In addition, Gary and Sarah received ministry through Restoring the Foundations, a ministry focused on prayer, inner healing, and deliverance. During this time, Gary ceased all international travel and reduced his ministry involvement to helping teach at their school, which Sarah oversaw. In 2019, with Peter’s supervision, Gary returned to limited national and international ministry.
Gary names his actions as they are: sexual sin and moral failure. He has confessed these sins to his wife, his leaders, his close friends, and, most importantly, to Jesus. In addition, he has sought care from licensed professionals, ministry from seasoned believers and lives openly and humbly, sharing these failures when teaching on the mercy of God.
We recognise that statements like this cannot resolve every question. Our hope is that the facts shared here help bring clarity, and that any remaining concerns can be examined carefully and honestly wherever the truth leads.
Gary & Sarah Morgan – Founders, School of Prophets
Peter McHugh – Founding Pastor, Stairway Church, Melbourne
Alyn Jones – Senior Pastor, Goodly Church, Nashville
Source: Statement Regarding Recent Claims About Gary Morgan, Gary & Sarah, https://garyandsarah.org/statement, Published March 18, 2026. (Accessed March 18, 2026.)
The Australian Prophetic Council published the following on Facebook,
Dear Church,
We have some news to share with you regarding a guest speaker we had minister at our church last year, including ministry at the Australian Prophetic Conference we hosted. The primary reason we feel we must make a statement to our church, and our online audience, is because we platformed this minister- and may have been the gateway to many of you now following his ministry.
We don’t take sharing this news lightly; scripture teaches us to be delicate with such situations:
1 Timothy 5:19-20
Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.
What we want to bring to the church, is simply what reports had come to us. We ourselves feel unable to make a truth claiming statement about the situation, because of how far removed we are; however after receiving reports we found concerning, we felt it would be irresponsible for us to not at least allow what we’ve heard to be presented to the church we had introduce to his ministry. We present the report as an opportunity for discernment; allowing saints to weigh up the situation themselves and consider how to respond to the situation.
6-7 Weeks ago we received some reports from seemingly credible ministers against Gary Morgan. The report was that, 7-10 years ago, Gary Morgan was accused of using Facebook as a means to gain information on someone before prophesying over them.
As the report goes: there was a couple following Gary’s ministry that noticed a unique recurrence – many times during this year, those being prophesied over were also Facebook users that had RSVP’d or interacted with Facebook Events / Posts leading up to the event Gary was ministering at. To test this theory, this couple decided to create a dummy Facebook account. They used this Facebook account to engage with posts leading up to another conference Gary was ministering at.
The report claims that during the conference, Gary gave a “word of knowledge” for a person matching the details of this dummy Facebook account; calling out their name and birth date.
At this point the couple worked with the local leadership to confront Gary. Gary was surprised by the accusation, and maintained he never used Facebook to gather information on attendees for words of knowledge / prophecy. From what we understand, at this point he was removed from the Australian Prophetic Council. We were told he was willing to surrender his electronic devices for forensic investigation, but would only do so if the couple who brought the accusation forward would also surrender their devices (we are unsure why this condition was in place). Later on we discovered that this offer to surrender Gary’s electronic devices for investigation was only given 3 months after the incident took place. According to Gary’s team, the couple who brought the accusation were unwilling to surrender their devices, and so Gary’s devices were also not surrendered for forensic investigation. However according to the couple, they were indeed willing to surrender their devices.
When the reports came to us (only parts of the story above), we immediately reached out to Gary.
We believe it is important we not simply receive accusations, but also reach out to the accused, to hear both sides of the story.
About 4 weeks ago, we engaged in a zoom call with Gary, and what seemed to be two of his ministry elders.
In the call, they maintained that Gary never used Facebook to prophesy over anyone, and this was an isolated accusation; one that is now 7-10 years old.
They were not willing to share the full details of the incident, however they encouraged us to reach out to other parties involved and finish our investigation. In this meeting however, Gary’s team requested to be informed by the end of day if we wanted to keep Gary booked for ministry in 2026. We decided that it would be irresponsible for us to clear Gary for ministry in our circles prior to completing our investigation, in light of what had been brought to us – so we cancelled all bookings with Gary that same day.
Over the last few weeks, in the process of reaching out to other parties involved, and having the number of testimonies from seemingly credible witnesses only increase (including reports from ministers such as Ben Fitzgerald) – it became harder to simply take Gary at his word over the word of several others; others in ministry that carry a seeming weight of credibility, people we would consider to “know” as well as we “know” Gary. It was during this time of reaching out to others, that we finished piecing together the report we gave above.
We ourselves feel it became difficult to land on a truth claim for a situation we were removed from, however we feel responsibility to bring the testimony to the church- rather than keep things hidden.
Ultimately we pray those more closely involved would complete the Matthew 18 journey, and bring a warning to the church if they believe there is warning to be brought. If these accusations are falsified in any way, we pray that the falsification would also be brought to light.
Our counsel to GGC is this: that upon hearing both sides of the story, we ourselves believe wisdom would be to walk in caution; and until a resolution or public testimony has been provided- it seems right for us to part ways with Gary’s ministry.
This event has reminded us how valuable and important it is to engage in ministry through relationship – and not just “ministry association”. There are many ministers we walk in deep relationship with, that we also enjoy the deep trust and integrity of. In a season where it can feel like a struggle to trust others in ministry, we must lean into deeper relationships as the vehicle for ministry operation.
There is more behind the decision we’ve made, that we don’t believe is yet necessary to disclose; including more details to the wider story – but we encourage you to lean into our counsel on the matter. Upon considering reports from both sides, events surrounding the incident, and even how we encountered people on the different sides of this situation, we were left with a sense that this is something we have responsibility to bring to the church.
After approaching one of the witnesses in our investigation, it seems they came to a realisation that they should’ve been more public with this previously – so they reached out to a YouTuber Mike Winger, and since then news of this has begun going more public.
One of our disappointments: is that if what Gary was accused of is true, why those involved did not feel responsible to make known what took place, to warn the church. However, as we have come towards the end of our investigation, there seems to be a context to the way things were done – whether right or wrong.
We only finished our investigation this past Friday (13th March 2026) at our most recent elders meeting; and have now had the opportunity to bring it to you the church.
We want to be clear: we did not know of this accusation prior to inviting Gary for ministry, and within weeks of finding out made moves to reach out, and subsequently remove association with him. We have since made a statement to our leaders, our church, and now the church beyond our local context; those who’ve been in partnership with GGC through ministry, or conferences we’ve hosted.
The reason we bring this news to you:
1. GGC / APC will be taking caution around Gary’s ministry, and at least seasonally be parting ways.
2. This is not a call to write-off any words you have received from Gary; but we do encourage you to reprocess them in the light of this news, with the appropriate parties (scripture, leaders, church family, and so on)
3. We invite you to be praying for Gary, and his family – and the circles of churches and ministries more closely involved with this situation. Ultimately Gary, and those who have brought reports against him (we believe in confidence), are our brothers/sisters in Christ – family. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, so let us expose darkness, wherever it is- that our brothers would be redeemed and Jesus would be glorified.
We love Gary. We love the church. We pray that in all of this; Jesus would be glorified and the church would only grow in maturity, and unity, into the full stature of Christ.
With Love,
The GGC Eldership Team
Source: Australian Prophetic Conference and Glorious Gospel Church, Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/auspropheticconf/posts/pfbid0it2JLtUivwoHB1ovPiW1xv9VedqsDVQhDRUaynsydQsHG6Gd1gND8EJKNnxsUR4El, Posted March 18, 2026. (Accessed March 19, 2026.)
You can find this statement on their website here.
A Statement Regarding Gary Morgan
Source: A Statement Regarding Gary Morgan, Glorious Gospel Church Life, https://ggclife.com/a-statement-regarding-gary-morgan/, Published March 18, 2026. (Accessed March 19, 2026.)
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